« Minnesota IT Jobs With Minnesota Non Profits | Main | Target Corporation To Keep Headquarters in Downtown Minneapolis »

April 07, 2009

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83454ef4269e201156f072b74970c

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Rant About “Experts” And “Gurus” Slinging Bull Shit:

Comments

gl hoffman

Good rant, Paul

Suzy Tonini

I can't wait to hear the rest of the iceberg as the tip is already spot-on

Crystal

You have some great points as we are not in a world where sitting on our butts does anything for us. Pick up the phone and be action oriented!

Keith Privette

Awesome and well spoken rant! What would happen if these "guru's" starting having real world conversations in social media, how wide would the net be. You have to build relationships these days to get anything done. Thanks Paul!

Lance Haun

Great post Paul.

In addition to being careful about who you listen to, bloggers should be careful about what advice they dispense. It seems as though some believe their advice lives in a bubble but when a real person takes their advice and it causes real consequences, they don't think it matters. Or they try to blame it on the person who followed the advice.

I think there is some responsibility for both parties.

Bob Tarver

Paul:

Applause Applause

Keep on telling it like it is...

HR Minion

Very nice post. It's good to get these things off your chest every now and then. And the world needs more people willing to call bullshit, bullshit. :)

Recruiting Animal

How can people who don't use social media know if they work?

Here's a start, Paulie. You can ask the people who use them about their results.

Deb DeWanz

Excellent Rant! "Be very, very careful who you listen to" is wise advice.

Unfortunately, there are too many people out there willing to believe whatever they read, even if it doesn't make sense.

People need to do their own thinking. If something doesn't make sense (like not using LinkedIn) or just sounds bizarre (like it's OK to burn bridges and that you don't need references), ignore it. Caveat emptor.

MN Headhunter

Thanks to everyone for stopping by. The next rant is an angle on one of Lance's comments. When putting out material there is a responsibility that goes along with it.

I agree that a reader needs a filter of their own but many are seeking this information because they do not have the answer. Or know where to get it.

Animal, how about this. I will tell someone what/how I do when someone else does too. I find it odd that I need to show metrics and dollars billed.

How about I trade you what I know even up for something that works for you?

Better yet, let's give someone who is a naysayer the floor and they can explain why it did not work for them. Then we can find someone to teach them how to do it. And we may learn that their location, industry and skill set (they are recruiting for) this does not work for.

Or, those using a tool should stop trying to teach others and keep it to themselves.

Seems those who have success have a larger burden to carry.

Deb DeWanz

Actually, I'm talking about more than a filter.

I agree with you that people who put information out for the world to see should be responsible about the information that they publish. But, I would bet that the people that have you so frustrated honestly believe that they have been responsible. They believe that they're publishing reliable information. Thus, the caveat emptor statement.

I'm one of those people who doesn't have the answers. I'm learning, though, where to get them. I've heard you speak, and I've read your blog, and I've learned that this is one place where I can get info that makes sense to me.

But, this isn't the only place that I've looked for information. I do my homework. I've seen info out there that I agree with, and other info that I've chosen to pass by. I make choices about the information that I see. And, as time goes on, I learn.

Thanks for all of the hard work that you do. Those of us who don't have the answers greatly appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge.

Jim Durbin

I like it when Animal challenges people on their successes. We need more of that.

I'm not convinced social media is great for jobseekers. It's good for someone, but it's good for some the same way most career advice books are good. If you're a top performer and have something to say, social media can supercharge your career. That's because you're interesting, and people want to know more about you.

But what about the large number of people who don't see their job as the focus of their existence. They can be hard workers, and interesting outside of work, but what if their job is just not that exciting? What if you drive a delivery truck for UPS, or work as the engineer in a packaging plant, or you're the office supervisor for a calling center? Is social media really the way to get a job?

It may be - maybe your personal life leads you to those jobs - but if that's the case, the best advice is really to just be yourself.

I agree that we have to be careful what we say. I recently had a trainee call me up because they put up candidates on LinkedIn and lost them to other recruiters while in process.

I wasn't sure what to say. I apologized - clearly my training didn't emphasize that point enough - or did it? I was quite clear in my words what to do, but maybe I misremembered, or maybe the trainee didn't hear me, or maybe they heard and forgot.

Employment is messy. It's because it's made up of people.

Jim D'Amico

Dude, you are dead on!

The comments to this entry are closed.

Stay In Touch

Related Posts with Thumbnails

About

  • Mnheadhunter-templogo

    Welcome to the Minnesota Headhunter Blog. My name is Paul DeBettignies (pronounced De-Bett-ingz).

    I started writing this blog in May of 2005 to share thoughts and ideas I had as an IT recruiter.

    Since then I expanded this site to include local recruiter jobs, help Minnesota nonprofits find IT volunteers and employees, links to Minnesota business news, and promote the local tech community.

    I am the Managing Partner of Nerd Search, LLC a Minneapolis IT search firm, Co Founder and Coordinator of Minnesota Recruiters and a frequent local and national speaker and article contributor on recruiter, HR, career, networking and social media topics.

    Have a question, comment, inquiry?

    Send me an email paul@mnheadhunter.com

    Thank you for reading.

    Paul DeBettignies
    Minnesota Headhunter

     

     FIND ME ONLINE

    Linkedin Twitter

    FacebookFeed

    MyspaceFriendfeed

     

    PROUD SPONSOR OF:

    Social Media Breakfast Minneapolis St Paul

    minne bar minnesota technology startup community

    unsummit 4 logo


       
       THEY LIKE ME:

     Top25-hr-digital-recruiters-logo


    Minnesota Social Media Innovator


    Recruitin Animal Award For Best Job Hunting Webinar 


      Dig Your Job 


     Featured in Alltop

MinnPost News

Blog powered by TypePad
Member since 05/2005

Site Meter